GHT – Looking for partners for sections or whole 4 months

Hello everyone, I’ve completed four treks over 1000 miles in the past and this year read about the ght and here we go. I’m not a fast hiker I just go at a steady pace but I have no problems stopping at well those awesome spots you have to stop at. My plan was to get to Nepal after the first of the year and qork out the logistics of the hike nd then hike as much of it as I can from late January until the first part of June. In certain areas I’ll need guides and some areas its required to have guides but on the whole I like to go at my own pace and camp where I want to camp, thus without a guide. Getting lost or on a slightly different tract is just part of the fun. If anyone wants to join for any and all sections let me know then we can communicate more. Cheers, j.c.

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  1. What is your planned routing. Roger

  2. Hey roger, wow it’s nice to get a reply. My routing is up in the air. I have an idea but I need to be in Nepal and actually see what I can do. Ive hiked the cdt, across alaska via the brooks mountains, a lot in copper canyon, the trans panama trail etc…so I become a person who adapts to what can actually happen. I. Love to hike from east to west but if I have to start in the middle I will. What ideas for this trek do you have? I’d love to hear them. Thanks roger, j.c.

  3. Hi Jc…I have not really studied too closely the various trail options for GHT, I am aware in general of course but not too many specific treks….was wondering what you’re plan was….you sound like an intrepid full on backpacker/trekker….I am not a climber and actually not too fond of extended stays in tents…..I have spent a long time in Nepal and really like trekking which is why I go back there so often but equally I like mixing with Nepalis….say crossing from Makalu to Khumbu on the high route would not be for me as it is an expedition route requiring full on group thing….recently have gotten interested in Kanchenjunga, even though it is a restricted area and you must pay for a guide, bummer…but it can be done tea house style but in early fall and spring only, not winter….the normal route to Pang Pema I am not sure of….I have trekked all over especially eastern N but not tenting and expedition passes….the idea of going from K thru Walunchhung Gola to upper Makalu is also intriguing though again may be wx/time limited and requires a guide….as for standard treks or just cross country I am in…but it sounds like you are thinking high route the whole time….

    Anyway let me know your plans…..I return from leading a trek in mid Jan and will likely be in KTM for a week or so unless I can find another informal small low cost trek lead job, I will give that a priority…..

    Let me know your thoughts….see my profile on this site….

    Roger

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    Hi JC,

    Although I can’t join you myself, I’m excited about your journey across the GHT. I met Liz Hawker recently, who also did the GHT. It sounds like a great way to see other parts of Nepal.

    Did you check out this website already – http://thegreathimalayatrail.org/?

    Alex

  5. Hi J.C. I am not an experienced hiker, I have been in the army for 6 years, so I can walk for long distances with a pack and am very used to living in the outdoors, jungle desert and cold weather. I am looking for a big adventure and was wondering if youd consider a hiking novice to join you. Hope to hear from you,

    Ben

  6. Sorry to say gents, this trail doesn’t exist. It has received much attention from deep funds of a British aide organisation, and people in that organisation benefit from the deception (high salaries) as do people and groups in Nepal that they throw roopis at to spread the deception. And hence the media buzz about it.
    Best of luck walking Nepal x-country but you will find no GHT. Complete bollocks. From what I hear, the runner gal Hawker was sponsored to do it, and became lost in the first week and then returned to Kathmandu. Apparently, she lost all her gear in the process – dangerous!!!
    If you walk in high country you will need local guides for each place and lot of food and choose the right season.

  7. @Hilary,
    What would you need for the trail to “exist” as you put it?
    Most of the high route, let’s say 70%, uses existing trails that connect places. Within that 30% there are some very tough challenges that require a depth of experience to tackle altitude, navigating thin or no trails or mountain passes verging on easier mountaineering, camping and cooking.

    This is not the kind of trail where the trail has been made 1m wide the whole way with painted markers or sign boards. It is too remote for that and that would damage the place itself.

    Try the lower sections by all means as there you have continuous connecting trails, still with no signs and the need to sometimes navigate, but much less serious terrain.

    This is the Himalayas after all.

  8. hey ben, sounds good. just finished tsum valley and manaslu. it was incredible but really cold. write back if still interested.

    hilary, where do i begin with you? long distance trails should always be a “trail” in theory and not a magic carpet ride. when i hiked the CDT for 3,100 miles i saw 5 markers the whole time. it is my belief that a trail needs to be wild and difficult or what’s the point, but i suppose not everyone thinks this way. for me nepal isnt wild enough. too many people and years of tourism, but what do i know? have fun hiking!

  9. @Richard
    In that case just go hiking anywhere, no need to call it a fantasy ‘trail’ that doesn’t exist. By using a specific term and even putting a line on maps, people believe a footpath exists. Dangerous. Nothing exists, except treks in already established areas that have been appropriated into this ’trail’.

    Why a strong need to call it a trail? And then you confuse the issue by saying to go out there and just navigate.

    As anyone around the trekking industry in Nepal knows, an obscene amount of funds went towards publicity and convincing others that something actually exists. It was a nice idea but the idea is limited to an office in Kathmandu. Ask any trekking agency in Kathmandu. If they are candid, then they will tell you it is all buzz and not reality. Some might try to ‘sell’ you something, but they will have no trail to follow…if they arrange something, it will be a hybrid hike across Nepal, a fantastic journey in itself. Go for it!

    Just get out there and hike and enjoy, there are many established trails/treks to choose from or can get outside these areas easily, too.

    @Jcalaska You ask where to begin with…well, sounds like you began with the established areas of Tsum Valley and Manaslu (not sure how they fit category of ‘wild enough’ as they are within top five busiest trekking areas of Nepal!). If you want to do something ‘wild enough’, get out beyond the established areas. It will be great. You will love it.

    But if you want to say you are doing some non-existent trail for some other purpose… if you try to follow this ‘trail’ based on maps, be careful. It is dangerous to do it alone.
    As Richard says, ‘this is the Himalayas after all’, high elevation, very tight window for passes, food has to be brought for long time away, need equipment and actually recommend very good local guides in each new place to find the way along with equipment to cross technical passes if not closed.
    *****And please be advised, a UK aide organization flooded and continues to flood this project with money and pays a lot of people to be on board as well as advertises the heck out of it. Therefore, it is very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to this trail. I wouldn’t be surprised if people commenting are under their payroll to continue their dangerous sham.

  10. @Hilary
    I agree with you on many points, not all.

    – Aid/funding. I believe the cost of advertising it was a pretty small % of the entire budget. I know in fact. It is an effective way of shining a spotlight other trekking areas in Nepal. You well know 2 places make up 80% of the trekking and that should change + encourage others to return to new places.

    – Nepal is competing with other trekking areas – Peru, USA, Canada, NZ, Japan, Thailand, Cyprus, France, Switzerland, India – the list goes on and is long. It needs some innovation. Tourism is still tiny in Nepal compared to other countries of a similar population.

    – People going to any of these areas, the off the beaten track areas, have to travel with a trekking agency, and hope fully they know what they are doing. No one’s going alone.

    – There is a bigger body of knowledge growing among people who’ve walked these routes, GPS tracks, route descriptions etc. There are also several agents who get out there and try to find new trails or follow existing migration / trading trails like project-himalaya and Paulo Grobel.

    – There is a market for this, and people plenty capable of making decisions about what trails to do.

    – Hansel and Gretel made a trail of breadcrumbs through the forest. That was enough for them, though the birds ate it. What is a trail in your mind? What does it look like? What is not a trail? A hunter’s trail? What about exploration?